When Is a Person Seed of God- Before or After Being Born Again?
1) Direct Answer
Before. A person is seed of God by God’s choosing before the new birth; the new birth is when that seed is quickened, manifested, and brought to life by the Spirit through the Word.
2) Scriptural Explanation
- Ephesians 1:4–5: Chosen in Christ before the foundation of the world and predestined unto adoption. That shows sonship in God’s purpose before time, and the new birth brings it into experience.
- John 10:26–27: “You believe not, because you are not of my sheep… My sheep hear my voice.” Notice, they are sheep first; hearing and following proves what they already are.
- Galatians 4:6: “Because you are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts.” The Spirit comes because of sonship—showing seed precedes quickening.
- 1 Peter 1:23: “Being born again… by the word of God.” The incorruptible seed is the Word; the Spirit quickens that seed to life.
- 1 John 3:9: “His seed remaineth in him.” The life comes forth because His seed is there.
- Romans 8:29–30: Whom He foreknew, He predestinated, called, justified, glorified. The call and justification unfold what God purposed beforehand.
3) Simple Clarifying Logic
Now notice the order God shows: seed first—life next. A seed lying in the ground is still a seed before it springs up. The season does not create the seed; it quickens it. So the new birth does not make you a son in God’s mind; it reveals and manifests that you are one, by bringing that predestined seed to repentance, faith in Christ, and a Spirit-filled walk. Without a seed, there is nothing to quicken; with the seed present, the Word and the Spirit will call it to life in God’s time.
Short Reinforcing Statement
You see, the sheep were always His in God’s foreknowledge. The new birth is that moment when the Shepherd’s voice strikes the seed, and life comes forth.
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What did the Laodicean Church Age (our age) Angel (- messenger) Say about this?
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CAB 8:E-9
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61-1231M §127
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