When Is a Person Seed of God- Before or After Being Born Again?
1) Direct Answer
Before. A person is seed of God by God’s choosing before the new birth; the new birth is when that seed is quickened, manifested, and brought to life by the Spirit through the Word.
2) Scriptural Explanation
- Ephesians 1:4–5: Chosen in Christ before the foundation of the world and predestined unto adoption. That shows sonship in God’s purpose before time, and the new birth brings it into experience.
- John 10:26–27: “You believe not, because you are not of my sheep… My sheep hear my voice.” Notice, they are sheep first; hearing and following proves what they already are.
- Galatians 4:6: “Because you are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts.” The Spirit comes because of sonship—showing seed precedes quickening.
- 1 Peter 1:23: “Being born again… by the word of God.” The incorruptible seed is the Word; the Spirit quickens that seed to life.
- 1 John 3:9: “His seed remaineth in him.” The life comes forth because His seed is there.
- Romans 8:29–30: Whom He foreknew, He predestinated, called, justified, glorified. The call and justification unfold what God purposed beforehand.
3) Simple Clarifying Logic
Now notice the order God shows: seed first—life next. A seed lying in the ground is still a seed before it springs up. The season does not create the seed; it quickens it. So the new birth does not make you a son in God’s mind; it reveals and manifests that you are one, by bringing that predestined seed to repentance, faith in Christ, and a Spirit-filled walk. Without a seed, there is nothing to quicken; with the seed present, the Word and the Spirit will call it to life in God’s time.
Short Reinforcing Statement
You see, the sheep were always His in God’s foreknowledge. The new birth is that moment when the Shepherd’s voice strikes the seed, and life comes forth.
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Believest thou this?
50-0115 §22
But Jesus, when He was borned, He was borned with that mark of being illegitimate child, that his father was Joseph. And that he was a born, in other words, a bastard child, born by a father which... by a mother that was... He was conceived before that they were married. And I say that that's wrong, because God was His Father. And He was borned of a virgin birth. Then we find out, that His coming on the earth, before He got here, He was announced to be here. And God always... Now, if I get some doctrine in this, yo...
We have seen His star and have come to worship Him
63-1216 §14
Now, but, He was perhaps born in April or May, one. When, He was a lamb, and every other thing proved He would be a lamb. That's the reason He was born in a manger, in a barn, and not in a house; because lambs are borned outside in the barns, in straw and stuff, and not in the house. When He was taken to the crucifixion, He was led away. You remember, you lead the sheep. We go to the slaughter house down here, they got a goat or something that leads the sheep; the sheep won't go hisself, he's got to be led. In ever...
Believest thou this?
51-0506A §28
And He came to this world as my example. And He came as your example to be--to just be content with such as we have. And when He was borned in the world, He had a hard start. When He was born, He was borned in a manger in a barn. Could you imagine a birth of that type? No lower birth could be, I don't expect, than to be born in a manger. And before He even got here, it was tacked onto Him of being a illegitimate child, that He was absolutely a--an illegitimate child; that Joseph was his father and he was going to b...
The resurrection of Lazarus
51-0729A §38
Now, before this Redeemer could come in the days of our text, when Jesus had become very popular. Although He was born with an awful scorn, He came in by the way of a stable door and went out the way of capital punishment (Did you know that?), considered a fanatic, laughed at, spit upon, made fun of, and the very God of Glory. He came in by a stable door. Why was Jesus born in a stable or a manger? Did you ever think of that? He had to be. He was a Lamb. Lambs are not born in houses. Lambs are born in the barns and...
Why I'm against organized religion
62-1111E §63
...is sacrilegious. Now, brethren listening to the tape, I don't mean this sacrilegious. Could you imagine me going out here, and a knot on the tree could ask me, "How in the world do you walk around like you do? I got life, I'm a knot on this tree"? He can prove he's got life, but it's the wrong kind. If he wants to walk around, the only way he'd ever walk around, see, taste, feel, smell and hear, if he could talk and say to me and ask that, the only way, he'd have to be born the same way that I'm born. Amen. He'll n...